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1 Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:42 pm

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Just wanted to point out that there are rumours that the next Eagle Dynamics jet is the Charlie.

http://www.cleared-to-engage.com/2011/03/30/dcs-f-18c-on-the-horizon/

Not here to troll or anything, just wanted the developers to know

2 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:08 am

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Yea, old news.

3 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:59 pm

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Something tells me that it won't happen. Not that it matters.

4 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:29 am

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DCS is making a P-51 sim right now.
That's a fact.

And based on what they've wrote they're planning to make more old-school planes after that.

5 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:36 am

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Actually, based on what they wrote, it's more complicated than that. The best way to describe it is that we don't know and won't know what's going on until they see fit to announce it. That's how this business works... no sense speculating over what might be.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=81589

6 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:41 am

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You've got to be joking. A P-51 sim? How boring.

7 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:55 am

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Many would disagree. (Including myself. As a pilot, and a Yankee, I love the P-51!) The key distinction is that they're making a P-51... not a P-51 sim. It just joins the DCS environment. (Which is justly the source of most complaints.) With that in mind, and knowing that they're actually pretty far along in development, I see no problem with more aircraft! I hope they branch off into the civilian realm and try to create a "whole" flight simulator rather than just a simulation of select combat aircraft.

8 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:19 pm

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You guys are a little too fast to end with some conclusions.
First: dcs p51 is part of flying legends series.
Second: you don't like it ? don't buy it.
Third: the US fixed wing jet is being worked in parallel.
Fourth: I believe we'll have a DCS-F/A-18C
And remember, it's mostly like we'll have a lot of modules in some years, all online compatible with each other. What do you want more from life ? Nevada dlc is also being worked in parallel and will be out in this summer.

EDIT: flaming cliffs 3 is also being worked in parallel.
EDIT: and remember combined arms addon.

9 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:05 pm

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Thanks, secret. I'm well aware that I don't have to buy it if I don't want to. I have nothing against the mustang but there's already other decent sims with the p-51. Im a pilot too, and I don't have much of an interest in flying aircraft with less performance and technology than what I'm already flying. Where's the fun in that? I'm well aware that doesn't represent the sim community at large but as I said, the p51 is out there already.



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10 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:44 pm

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MudRat02 wrote:I don't have much of an interest in flying aircraft with less performance and technology than what I'm already flying. Where's the fun in that?

Oh, what kind of heresy is this? What do those RAAF guys teach you?? Shocked

11 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:37 am

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MudRat02 wrote:Thanks, secret. I'm well aware that I don't have to buy it if I don't want to. I have nothing against the mustang but there's already other decent sims with the p-51. Im a pilot too, and I don't have much of an interest in flying aircraft with less performance and technology than what I'm already flying. Where's the fun in that? I'm well aware that doesn't represent the sim community at large but as I said, the p51 is out there already.

P-51 has a fair bit more performance than the PC-9!

12 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:52 am

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Is that what I'm flying these days!? I don't know what lead us to that conclusion!

13 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:39 am

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MudRat02 wrote:

I'm in the first stage of flight training (BFTS), so for me Hawks will be at the end of next year at the earliest. I haven't been over to RAAF Williamtown recently, but the Hawk LIF instructors/students pass through our base quite often to give us a bit of motivation, so we may have crossed paths.

Sorry, was just basing it on the above from July last year.

14 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:29 am

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MudRat02 wrote:

Is that what I'm flying these days!? I don't know what lead us to that conclusion!

It's in the flying legends series and, cmon, how can you insult a plane like the p51 ? You can be a pilot but rest assure there are other people that want go back to WWII, and the damn modern jets, helicopters are being developed in parallel. What the hell is wrong with dcs p51 ?!!!! I don't understand you guys !!!

15 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:01 pm

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secret1962- Geez. Easy there, killer. Time for a break.

MudRat - It's a bit like a '69 Corvette Sting Ray compared to a Ferrari 458. There's something very solid and metallic and important about the Mustang. It's a piece of history, true, but anyone who loves airplanes and airshows can tell you it's the "Cadillac" of propeller driven aircraft. There's something incredibly attractive and full of character about a V12 and the complexity of a reciprocating engine from its heyday. The sound of a Merlin and the whine of the supercharger is a bit of heaven.

Maybe it resonates with Americans more, but if you asked any American fighter pilot what aircraft he'd like to own (if he could own any,) I bet 9/10 would answer with the Mustang.

So why NOT put it into a simulator?

16 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:10 pm

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I personally want a spitfire Smile

Maybe one day... kinda

http://www.supermarineaircraft.com/

17 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:03 am

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BeakerVBA wrote:
MudRat - It's a bit like a '69 Corvette Sting Ray compared to a Ferrari 458. There's something very solid and metallic and important about the Mustang. It's a piece of history, true, but anyone who loves airplanes and airshows can tell you it's the "Cadillac" of propeller driven aircraft. There's something incredibly attractive and full of character about a V12 and the complexity of a reciprocating engine from its heyday. The sound of a Merlin and the whine of the supercharger is a bit of heaven.

Maybe it resonates with Americans more, but if you asked any American fighter pilot what aircraft he'd like to own (if he could own any,) I bet 9/10 would answer with the Mustang.

So why NOT put it into a simulator?

I can appreciate the Mustang, and for sure it does deserve to be simulated - but wasn't I right in saying that it has been done before, many times and quite thoroughly? I don't dabble much in that sim genre but I'm pretty sure that's accurate, but on the other hand DCS has released some unique titles based on modern equipment. I stand by what I said previously, and I do think it would be a waste if they re-simulated the P-51 instead of giving us something new. For those reasons (although not on performance/tech grounds!) I'd also be disappointed if they brought us DCS F-16, however unlikely that is.

18 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:51 am

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Fair point. You really can't count any other simulator reincarnation of it to date, but A2A Simulations has been working on one for FSX for quite some time. It looks like it will be really well made... for FSX. FSX is still terribly limited by terrible multiplayer latency.

19 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:01 pm

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Based on my experience with the DCS P-51, if DCS were to get a 3rd party dev to make WWII era planes it would be a superior experience to any WWII combat flight sim to date in terms of fidelity.
Comparing flight dynamics, *feel of flight* and complex engnie management to existing WWII era sims (CLOD, IL2 1946 ver 4.11,), DCS P51 wins hands down (IMO). So .. I really hope that the 3rd dev's start to see the opportunity here Smile.

It's be interesting to see what the next jet will be. I hope it's the Charlie Hornet. Really looking forward to SevenG's product and waiting in the wings for the BMS example in their next upgrade. One can never have too many Hornets Wink

20 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:41 pm

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The P-51 is a great plane but it was easy to integrate it into the existing DCS series, because it doesn't need a radar system like the existing helicopters and the A-10 aircraft.

It's still a weakness of DCS that a realistic radar doesn't exist and ground units like SAM sites only shoot in the line of sight.

Let us hope we'll get an improvement with the Mig-21 or F/A-18.

21 Re: Rumours os DCS:F/A-18C on Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:59 am

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FYI JimMack from ED posted this a while ago (on the DCS forums)in response to questions as to why the Mustang was modeled.

"We have proved we can model fixed wing jets, and rotary wing. The third "leg of the stool" is prop aircraft, which obviously have completely different characteristics to jets. It opens up opportunities for modern prop aircraft, Pilatus, Tuscano etc."

Might help to see DCS strategy from an overall point of view.

22 F/A-18C confirmed on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:28 pm

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Matt Wagner confirmed a F/A-18C Hornet being in development in this recent radio interview:

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/beyond-w-tony-kudos-17182/

(go forward to Min. 54:00)

That's awesome news! Very Happy

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